Posts by Nathan Natas

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Cirencester Congregation UK: My story

by erbie in

dear all,.

i have been a member here for some years although mostly in the background.

many of you have bravely shared your own experiences and i am very grateful for that but i have never been open about my own experience.. nevertheless, i would be very grateful to those of you who would now take the time to read about my own personal journey from the jw religion and the circumstances that caused me to abandon that way of life and how i landed up where i am.

Nathan Natas

That's terrible.

Your father-in-law make some kind of despicable public spectacle of himself at a party that you WERE NO LONGER PRESENT AT,is consequently told to step down, and somehow this is YOUR fault?

...and your wife sides AGAINST you with her father?

You've just uncovered a genetic disposition to low morals that seems to run through your wife's family

I hope you have no children to further complicate things.

This will be HELL to get through, but once it is done your life will be so much better. You have my best wishes. Please keep in touch.

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Church gets own police force - are the Dubs next?

by SadElder in

just read this article in the washington times.

other sites have similar stories.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/12/briarwood-presbyterian-alabama-megachurch-gets-sta/.

can you imagine the dubs with a sworn police force with arrest powers?.

Nathan Natas

Blondie pointed out

"The Vatican is protected by Swiss Guards."

If The Watchtower takes this step, will they be called "The Iron Fist in a Velveeta Glove"?

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Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

i am writing an article on whether c.t.

russell was a mason.

i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.

Nathan Natas

Vienne:

But you raise GOATS. Tell Baphomet I said "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn."

...just yankin' yer chain! Welcome to our nightmare!

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What will happen if someone partake the wine and bread at memorial? Should we all do that?

by UBM101 in

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Nathan Natas

They will be violently seized and torn limb from limb.

Happy?

67

Japan On High Alert

by snowbird in

jw
friends

my g'daughter and her hubby are stationed in okinawa.. i talked with her a few hours earlier today, and she stated they're preparing for the worst.. young people are remarkably resilient, aren't they?.

sylvia.

Nathan Natas

'shrooms or weed? Which offers the best protection?

43

Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

i am writing an article on whether c.t.

russell was a mason.

i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.

Nathan Natas

Welcome to the club. I think that B. W. Schulz was a friend of Richard Rawe's, but since Richard's death it has been difficult to reach him for comments.

It certainly seems that B. W. Schulz is interested in being an unknown, and I can understand that. no one wants to become "Exhibit A" in the museum of how much the WTB&TS can mess with individuals. The Watchtower has financial resources far greater than most of us.

My take on it is that B. W. Schulz is a pretty fair chronicaller/historian and offers material not found elsewhere.

"Timothy White" was another reclusive historian. I was able to "crack the code" on Tim. Perhaps you'll be able to do the same with B.W.

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Prince’s Wife Tells All About The Star’s Involvement With Scientology

by oppostate in

according to prince’s wife, mayte garcia’s new tell-all book, even though the late star identified as a jehovah’s witness, he was also quite interested in scientology in the 90s!.

the woman who was married to the rock icon for 4 years until 2000 revealed that another celebrity tried to convert him to the controversial faith.. however, it turns out that the singer chose to step away from the religion.. according to garcia, he thought scientology was “intriguing,” but ”i don’t need somebody telling me how to believe in my god.”.

“he was always a spiritual seeker…he was way too smart to be sucked into something just because he was vulnerable in that moment,” the wife stated.. furthermore, garcia, who is now 47 years old, revealed that prince became a jehovah’s witness as a coping mechanism following the death of their baby boy, amir.. prince’s friend, bassist larry graham was the one who introduced him to the religion that soon took over every part of his everyday life.. because of that, he changed so much his marriage with garcia was ruined.. the woman explains in the book that prince was so much into the religion that he thought god was punishing him for the type of life he used to lead and that his infant’s death was the greatest price to pay for his reckless existence up to that point.. garcia, who was a born catholic, could not see things the way her husband did, no matter how much she tried.. “i…refused to embrace the gospel according to graham.

Nathan Natas

"Prince would keep being faithful to his religion during his drug use up until his death in 2016, at the age of 57."

Yes, what was Simon's tread? "Even if it's not the truth, it's still the best way to live."

Because it is SWELL.

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Long article, but it explains a lot of things

by JeffT in

jw
friends

i found this the other day, and read it last night.

i think it explains a lot of what is going on in both american politics and many religions around the world.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/03/this-article-wont-change-your-mind/519093/?utm_source=feed.

Nathan Natas

I didn't read the article. I'm just posting this to increment my number of posts by one.

[selah]

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Proper understanding of the Mediator & New Covenant

by Crazyguy in

mediator and the new covenant.

the society has taught that only the 144,000 are to par-take of the emblems and jesus only mediates and died for them.

"he is the mediator between his heavenly father, jehovah god, and the nation of spiritual israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members.

Nathan Natas

A "proper" understanding, based on whose hallucination?

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Even if it's not the truth, it's still the best way to live

by Simon in

how many times did you hear that gem?

it often went along with "the truth is a protection" which is their way of saying "living a moral life is good for you ... and you can't do that without us".. but think about what people are really saying.

i think the real message is "i know it's not the truth, but i chose to follow it anyway".. it seems like a pre-emptive argument because they know they can't defend it as "the truth" so instead they switch to defending it as a lifestyle.. of course any kind of lifestyle that has a decent moral ingredient to it, respect for law and order, discipline etc... probably increases people's chances of doing better in life, but they don't have a monopoly on it.. so just remember, next time you hear someone saying "even if it's not the truth" what they are really admitting is that they already know it isn't..

Nathan Natas

I remember hearing this bilge when I was a kid, usually after an announcement that so-and-so was a junkie, or a pervert, or successful in business, or woke up in a good mood.

Because life is SO MUCH BETTER when you follow the advice of uneducated ignoramuses (ignoramusi?) and yield to the tremulous fears of the local busybody old maids.

Yeah.

Fer sher.

[selah]